Elle hosts Katie Bjärgvide, a former missionary and US expat living in Sweden. Katie discusses her journey from evangelical Christianity to deconstructing her faith, influenced by events like Trump's election and choosing to accept her transgender brother. She shares her experiences raising neurodivergent children in Sweden, her struggles with burnout, and her transition to a creative career. Katie emphasizes the importance of self-care, creativity, and adapting to new challenges. Elle and Katie highlight the value of compassionate and sustainable care for getting through the gauntlet of all the things.

Elle hosts Kristina Leader a progressive woman in Idaho. Kristina's shares stories of her neurodivergent family in their various pursuits, including D&D, STEM, music, wrestling, art, and writing. Kristina emphasizes the importance of connection and community, creating safe spaces in a conservative small town, her love of the local library, and her role as a supportive parent and Dungeon Master for a local D&D club.

Elle Billing hosts Wolfe Erickson, a queer and disabled civic technology designer and somatic coach. Wolfe discusses their work on Medicare.gov, emphasizing trauma-informed methodologies and participatory design. They highlight the complexities of healthcare design, including the challenges of making healthcare technologies accessible. Wolfe also shares their journey into somatics, explaining its focus on body-based approaches and the importance of reconnecting with the body's wisdom and maintaining a grounded relationship with one's body.